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What is on the Moon?

What is on the Moon?

New Truth. False Doctrine. Providential. Cultic. Inspiring. Manipulative. Chosen. Evil.

People say a lot about the Unification Church. Can you give us a chance to tell our stories?

The lineage is a lie. There is no lineage. Thank you Rev. Moon for your fucked up legacy.

John Reed’s most insightful crap cutting post ever!

22nd May 2013 Response to the Global anonymous coward

The lineage is a lie. There is no lineage. It is just an instrument for people to remain loyal to this false family of hypocrites. They are not who they pretend to be. They are not the ideal in substance. They don’t even make it in the finals for good relationships amongst themselves. The steal, fight, and covert any thing they can at the cost of the membership. That also includes the witch of Cheong Pyong whose Chaebol controls over 230 million dollars in assets. 

Thank you Rev. Moon for your fucked up legacy.

The incredibly shrinking group

UC. The incredibly shrinking group and what I noticed about the 10th anniversary MEPI …famfed reported that they we expecting 200 participants, but only 46 showed up. (Including many repeat customers)  Mike Jenkins talked about how the tiny group went there to promote peace and understanding among the 3 main religions. Sorry, but it nearly broke my heart to see the same old faces, hearing the same ol song and dance about brotherhood and unity. I felt sorry for those who, with one face to the world preach peace and with the other side of their face justify the dysfunction and disunity within their own ranks. First get your own house in order then you can preach from the strength of your own standard. But for now you only preach what you cannot practice yourselves. And so, nobody wants to join you.

HSA-UWC Treasurer Dead

Does anyone have any information about the death of Rev. Eric Holt treasurer, chief financial officer, the comptroller for HSA-UWC?

Anonymous asked: What's with all of these future dates? The big one was 2013, Now the "newest" big one is 2020? Why must everything be objective to frickin' dates? Why not just do it NOW? Because there is nothing...

Indumbnity

I think the UC is a confusing contradiction that borderlines self masochism. Don’t be mistaken - there are UC members who have the most pure hearts of gold, but I can’t understand the organization and its teachings. Does one really have to travel to Cheongpyeong and pay $20,000+ dollars in ancestor liberation to go to Heaven? Really? Isn’t that no different than the old Catholic Church that the UC has supposedly superseded with a higher revelation? And then what? Wait for another church campaign where members are once again forced to cough up their savings? When does it end? Is there any freedom in the UC? Many members are old, poor, and suffering from health problems. They have no pensions, no security, and no life support. These members gave up everything so the Moon kids could knock up their girlfriends, sexually prey on members, and get multiple blessings. But just remember - if the Moon kids mess up it’s your fault. They messed up because you didn’t pay enough indumbnity. I really really love the members in the UC, but I have to say more than ever that I believe that true freedom is not in the UC. Look to Jesus. He will heal your pain. He knows your faults. He will not ask you to suffer for him. There is no INDUMBNITY in Christ. INDUMBNITY is NOT true love.

Response to the Global anonymous coward.

“It distorted his thinking and warped his common sense almost like he has stockholm syndrome.   It’s time to move on Frank like John Reed did several months ago.  Stop looking for demons they are everywhere and easy to find .”
[Quote from - “A Concerned Global Citizen”]

Dear Global Citizen,

I think you may not understand what I mean when I say I would like to move on. It’s got to do with perception, or having a broader perspective than I once had. At one time in my life it meant cutting off completely from the group and the family that run that group to their own advantage. I did that and threw out the baby with the bath water. But since then have come to realize that it is part of my life experience and unlike church members attitudes towards others it is not a healthy thing to just completely cut off from something we have interacted and associated with, and a community we were involved in. Perhaps that is necessary to go cold turkey to separate from the group some that an individual can reference their life experience without it being in the frame work of that group but sooner or later - maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but in an individuals good time they may want to revisit and reflect, evaluate and discern what they were doing, and what they were believing, especially in light of the reality of the Moon family’s laundry out there for all to see - now and for all time.

When you mention my name then I will respond. I have not just “moved on” in the sense that I no longer am around, I have moved on in the sense that I have gone beyond the experience and see and understand things much clearer than I was when I was in the group, and also when I was completely separated from it. People like Frank and myself will always be around to challenge you. We will not just go away. The number of people with similar experiences with this group is growing as time goes on. It will not go away. This so called true family interrupted my life, they mislead an impressionable young idealist searching for God, they redirected my offering and caused me to separate from my own parents to help develop their dysfunctional church and ultimately the offering I made was redirected into the Moon families pockets.

So I will not go away. In a sense Moon and his cohorts had a hand in my development. They made me what I am today. They trained me well. They conditioned me well. This whole thing was all about Moon himself, and his physical family at the cost of everyone else. The lineage is a lie. There is no lineage. It is just an instrument for people to remain loyal to this false family of hypocrites. They are not who they pretend to be. They are not the ideal in substance. They don’t even make it in the finals for good relationships amongst themselves. The steal, fight, and covert any thing they can at the cost of the membership. That also includes the witch of Cheong Pyong whose Chaebol controls over 230 million dollars in assets. 

So Frank and myself, and others will never go away. We are co-joined hash out this shit until the day we die and beyond. Thank you Rev. Moon for your fucked up legacy.


 

John Reed

Anonymous asked: Bring ex-members back to what exactly? There is a reason individuals no longer associate and interact in that group, and also the people in the group want you to come back on their terms in a conditional - not unconditional - way. Also, they wouldn't be able to handle the challenge to their authority. In case you haven't noticed their focus for the past twenty years has been their kids. Also, why on earth would anyone want to make an offering that is redirected into the Moon families pockets?

Rev. Moon and the United Nations

howwelldoyouknowyourmoon:

By Harold Paine and Birgit Gratzer

November 2001

I. Introduction
The organization of the Reverend Sun Myung Moon is seeking a major role in the NGO community at the United Nations. Three Moon groups have been granted formal NGO status and others have applied. The Moon organization has used the UN for conferences and for publicity events. Moon has held a mass-wedding in a UN conference room. A new Moon-sponsored “umbrella group,” known as the World Association of NGOs (WANGO), proposes itself as an authentic voice of the NGO community.
The Moon organization (1) commands considerable financial resources. It has held lavish conferences, with participants from many countries. A number of government missions have lent their support. Dozens of well-known scholars, NGO representatives, politicians and diplomats have unwittingly taken part.
At a time when many are asking questions about who NGOs represent and what role they should have in global governance, we must carefully examine this newcomer, especially since it lays claim to broad international legitimacy. (2)
The Moon organization, as we shall show, is a strange admixture of religion, politics and business. It has confounded tax and oversight authorities by doing much of its financial transactions in cash and by using the mantle of religious freedom to shield itself from scrutiny. (3)
Before turning to details about Moon activities at the UN, we will review general information from public sources about the Moon organization and its operating methods. We draw on many major media, books and journal articles, a report of the US Congress and extensive web-based information, as well as Moon publications and web sites. In the subsequent report about the Moon organization at the UN, we also draw on a number of interviews as well as primary documents.

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In answer to the question about leaving the church…

In Jin’s implosion made me lose any hope in the Moon family.  But as bad as that was, the infighting among brothers was the last nail in the coffin.  That did it for me.  

How leaders react may depend on which district you are in.  No one bothered to even call me to ask why I was not coming to church anymore.  I am not aware of any active campaign to bring old members back, although there is some lip service about doing so.