February 2012
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True Family Behind the Scenes Story
Posted by JH in the WIFL google group.
Read this and send it to anyone you think should know this part of our history
True Family Behind the Scenes Story <Unite Centered On Your Older Brother!>
by Boon Bong Wang Yong An Kwon
(Source http://cafe.daum.net/W-CARPKorea/Umxh/2114)
True Father’s Words of December 24 2008 Revealed for First Time
Unite Centered On Your Older...
Who is Kwon Jin Nim Moon??
On Nov 28 2010 HDK Father Moon said that Kwon Jin Nim is in a difficult place now? All I know of him is that he is blessed without any biological children. Rev moon had great hopes of this son one day becoming president of the united States of america. Instead Kwon Jin went to holllywood did a few odd jobs here and there and seems that his hollywod career never got off the ground. His last...
Reveals more than they thought certainly!
http://bafc.org/
I too watched this video of Hyung Jin at that link. Not only did it confirm that TF railed on TM, it also confirms that TF is indeed an aging man being handled by those around him. Listen carefully when Hyung Jin describes TF’s reactions and how he calmed him down to manipulate him.
SOUND FAMILIAR ?
Here is a passage from Norman Cohn’s book “The Pursuit of the Millenium”
“….,At the center of this doctrine stood a messiah who was referred to as the anointed savior and who was expected to inaugurate the third and last age. The brothers asserted that this man,not Christ,was the messiah prophesied in the old testament,the true son of man who was to appear in glory...
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The Moon Family
Sung to the “Adams Family ” theme tune
They’re creepy and they’re kooky
corrupt and flucky
they’re all together loony
the Moon family
In jin is a barbie
she’s really quite barmy
it really is a scam
the Moon family
(corrupt)
(adulterous)
(grabbing)
Avoid any meetings
don’t listen to any greetings
you’ll have a better life
( from ) the...
What are peoples objections to Sun Myung Moon?
1. Principle and practice or substance not apparent. 2. One set of rules for the Moon family and another for the members. 3. Extravagant lifestyle. 4. Dysfunction of the church group and corruption of the higher church leaders. 5. Sexual activities covered up and excused as providential. 6. Demand to have the Moons as my center instead of God; Okay if they were the word in substance but there are...
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RE: Why is it so imbalanced?
Your question reminded me of this quote “If you’re not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. ~Malcolm X” because I think the core of the quote “hating the people who are oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing” is at the...
Excerpt from: In the Shadow of the Moons
“In the Shadow of the Moons: My Life in the Reverend Sun Myung Moon’s Family”/Little Brown & Company, 1998 By Nansook Hong
“This family is the Holy Family? It is a myth that can be sustained only from a distance.”
“I would learn that the rules did not apply to the Moon family. All had sex immediately after the Blessing, if they had not already had sex...
January 2012
49 posts
Why is it so imbalanced?
I was just thinking about the privileged education of the upper class church kids while the general member doesn’t even have some kind of educational trust fund for their kids set aside or offered by the church or organisation affiliated to it. Yes there is a wealthy class and the impoverished class - two classes. The haves and the have nots. Look around. This is not meant to be a rant but...
(News) The Most Hidden Hoondokhoe at the Palace
Following Part 1, this is the second part.
(News) The Most Hidden Hoondokhoe at the Palace <Part 2>
Source http://cafe.daum.net/W-CARPKorea/cSkJ/13297
<Part 2>
After <Part 1> that dealt with 2012. 1. 19 (Thursday) Hoondokhoe with True Parents, now you have True Father’s words on 2012. 1. 21 (Saturday) Hoondokhoe at Cheon Jung Palace with True Parents.
The people...
Hyung Jin Confirms Father's Angry Rebuke of Mother...
Take a look at the Bay Area UC website http://bafc.org/ On their homepage they have a video of Hyung Jin trying to explain and justify the fact that Father is currently directing some really angry criticism at Mother
Do not be deceived
Lord God’s word:
1 Corinthians 6:9- Do not be deceived; Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, effeminate and homosexuals shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
(Romans 1:25-28)
25 They chose a lie instead of God’s truth. They worshiped and served created things. They didn’t worship the Creator. But he must be praised forever....
Then Who Is Yeon Jin Nim Moon AKA Kat Moon
She is in her early thirties no Blessed husband , no pre blessing engagement, no broken blessing. Of course this does not mean she is a lesbian BUT it certainley puts her in the category of an OLD MAID.
She lives in England ,has a production company called Wham Bam productions and also has a lucrative trust fund.
When I joined the church they made it pefectly clear that you only enter heaven...
(NEWS) The Most Hidden Hoondokhoe at the Palace
Posted on WIFL google group by JH.
Father is always scolding members, but this is different.
(NEWS) The Most Hidden Hoondokhoe at the Palace <Part 1>
Source http://cafe.daum.net/W-CARPKorea/cSkJ/13266
******** For some reason, as of late <PeaceTV> and the <History Compilation Group>, which should be putting their priority on documenting and transmitting True Parents words,...
(Another) Reply to What Did TF Say About...
lgbtmoonies:
If posting those quotes were your effort to turning someone off of homosexuality, or self acceptance, you just failed miserably. As a second gen thats struggling with her faith, reading those speeches - especially the first one - just makes me more disgusted with Moon. In fact, it gave me quite a revelation. Half of what I love about the church, I got from my parents. I love their...
I don’t think Yeon Jin Moon is a lesbian… she just made a documentary about the reality of love among same-sex couples. Gosh, we’re speculating too much about the silliest shit.
Response to the gay BC who just left.
There is a tumblr blog specifically for people in your situation, although I don’t know how active it is. I think the owners of this blog can direct you there. Sorry, I don’t remember the name of it.
Response To The Gay Blessed Child looking for...
You ask are there others in your same situation or are there others you can talk to.
Here is this http://vimeo.com/8030824 maybe this person who made this film can help you get your life together . Or maybe this person is confused as much as you whatever it is good luck trying to find her. Her name is Yeon Jin Nim Moon the second of the youngest True Child. As a first Generation moonie...
Adultery
Lord Jesus’ word about adultery : Matthew 19:9
Here is what I tell you. Anyone who divorces his wife and gets married to another woman commits adultery.
Anyone
who divorces his wife, Sun Myung Moon divorced his first wife Sun Kil Choi.
And gets married to another
woman Hak Ja Han, worst between the first wife and Hak Ja Han, he has a child with another woman Myung Hee Kim. Check...
Gay BC
You are the dark secret of the UC, sadly there is no help inside the UC.
If it is any help to you, rest assured that you are loved and respected for who you are no matter what your sexual orientation happens to be.
I would also like info on the trust fund. It sounds very interesting. Apparently, the failed actor—Kwon Jin Moon—lives off of the trust fund.
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For the seekers at Lovin' Life Ministries
saywhataboutmoon:
I know many people are recruited by young “witnessers” and STF youth in New York City. It isn’t intense, but it is a decent amount of people. If you have been asked to attend Lovin’ Life Ministries or a friend is going to take you… I want you to know it is a cult. It is part of the Unification Church and it is an organization that says Sun Myung Moon is the messiah and Jesus...
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Hi, I’m a BC who is gay. I recently left the church after a failed matching and attempts to de-gayify myself. Are there others like me? Is there any place I can read about people in the same situation?
Where does the Money Come From?
I have heard/read that In-Jin receives $40,000 a month from a trust fund,anyone know what trust fund it is,also, how much is the total assets of the UC is it millions or billions?
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A recent post noted the following: “From the principle perspective the fall of Humanity was caused by illicit sexual relationship.” This may be so of the Principle, but it is not the Biblical view. The central sin in the Bible is idolatry. Adultery is a sin, but is is listed in the second half of the 10 Commandments that deal with human relationships with one another. (Number 7) The...
How do you know that the root of all problems is...
howwelldoyouknowyourmoon:
From the principle perspective the fall of Humanity was caused by illicit sexual relationship. Who defines the standard of morality of what is acceptable or not (that which is illicit). Why do you think that the root of all our problems is a low standard of sexuality. What is the standard. How is it defined and where is it recorded. What is so bad about having sexual...
personal.
dizzy-lizard:
i will never learn how to be grounded, and i’m okay with that- but many people aren’t. like my mother, parents are so interesting. they bring you here, they were brought here by their parents, so on and so fourth-
but it blows my mind how they just keep on…
continuing -
the cycle.
i am young. please let me be, mother. you’re so concerned and conceited in your faith (The...
i firmly believe
uhntss:
that the unification movement will be the final wave over this world. it will indeed unify those who’s hearts and minds can be solid in their purest form. out of it will evolve the most successful people because they will get back from the world, all that they’ve given. as they are rewarded in this cycle of giving and implied taking of all things wonderful and satisfying, the concept of...
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When is In Jin Moon going to publicly acknowledge her affair with Alistair Farrant and her husband’s (Jin Sung Park) drug addiction?
Oh, Mr. Cotter!!
Mr. Cotter,
Are you suggesting that the tragic recent suicide of our second gen was caused by Hyun Jin Moon’s letter? Do you really believe that? O M G!!
Also, are you really saying that the Kwaks were just a scapegoat to divert the attention of the membership from Hyun Jin Moon’s problem? … in the same paragraph you quote Father saying that Rev. Kwak killed his son. Are you implying that Father...
North Korea, the envy of the Moon Dynasty
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/13/north-korea-punish-mourners-insincere-kim-jong-il_n_1204377.html
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To the person who responded to the Christian...
It’s kind of disgusting how you can bash Kwak after all he has done for True Parents. Please, grow up. You may have felt the heart of God but you have obviously not inherited it.
Day 04 - Your views on religion.
littlegreenboxes:
I was extremely scarred by my childhood religious experience. I was born into the Unification Church (yes people, I am/was a moonie)(I sometimes still consider myself one….) which my mom broke away from when she divorced my dad when I was 6 months old. (She told him while she was pregnant with me that she was leaving him.)
So I had my mom and my dad with total opposite views...
RE-RE.....(heeheehee) "Past Results"
RE “Past Results”. Well you can turn a blind eye to the Ministers that are now saying they believe in True Parents, and you can talk down the unprecedented sea change taking place here in the American Unification Church,
Yep, I know that song and dance all too well. I’ve heard it sung for over 30 years. It’s that never ending song of great success and the dance of countless...
i’m a former unificationist and now i am an evangelical. i have only heard negative things about moon since i became a christian from christians. things like ‘oh, that goof from the 70s?’ or ‘ah, the cult leader!’ moon is not known as much else to many christians. i either come across people who are against moon or have no knowledge of the lad. nevertheless, i have...
Hey “Christian involved in many circles of Christianity”, who knows everything happening in every Church in America. Why didn’t you sign your name? Maybe because you are another Kwakie shill, denigrating Father Moon and the UC every chance you get perhaps?
I Remember
Back in the mid to late 1980s I was working on the ‘Interdenominational conferences for clergy’ ( I.C.C) this was primary aimed to get christian ministers to go to Korea and attend lectures (dp) and visit holy sites of the church in Korea. The problem that we faced was that non or very little of the ‘main-line’ churches took any interest, also Moon’s politics were too...
Where are the Ministers? How about where is Chung Hwan Kwak, who pledged over and over his loyalty and Filial Piety to the True Parents until his death? Obviously, a man whose oath and pledge mean nothing - or one who is already dead. Now trying to make excuses for his crimes (financial and otherwise) by trashing The True Parents and Hyung Jin Nim, Kook Jin Nim, and In Jin Nim. A liar and a...
Why did I have to get members to start my blessed...
I think lineage can be compared to the unification group dynamic. Either you are in or you are out. If you conform to the group or lineage then you are in and if you don’t you are out of the lineage and out of the group. I say this because the blessing is conditional based upon fulfillment of our responsibility. It’s not an absolute change that is still there despite your behavior. A...
After being connected 40 years with the...
After 40 years, connected with the UC, I finally understand. Jesus Christ is the only Son of God. Rev. Moon places himself above Jesus, saying that somehow, he failed in his mission to earth. That little thought that continuously runs through my mind, telling me that Rev. Moon is all about the self——himself——has now finally come to fruit. It never did add up—-the...
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I’m a Christian involved in many circles of Christianity… I am very involved in the Charismatic Movement across denominations, including the Catholic Church, Anglicanism/Episcopalianism, Presbyterians, Eastern Orthodox, Lutherans, etc. I am very much friends with Pentecostals, Methodists, Baptists, and am fellowship with Christians who agree with the core creeds of the early Church....
RE “Past Results”. Well you can turn a blind eye to the Ministers that are now saying they believe in True Parents, and you can talk down the unprecedented sea change taking place here in the American Unification Church, but time will judge whether your words meant a damn thing, won’t it? As will your absolute certainty that doing as father has asked is meaningless. One thing for...
“Korean court orders Tongil Foundation to pay 45.1 billion won to a UCI-owned company” by Tim Elder on December 29, 2011 via Tongil Foundation - “A court in Korea today ordered Tongil Foundation to pay 45.1 billion won ($38,966.66) in damages to Y22,…” My conversion says 54 billion won is 38 MILLION dollars.
Results of Past Minister Conferences
Where are the ministers from past DP workshops or past conferences now?
Do you know how many ministers have attended DP workshops and conferences over the years? Hundreds, if not thousands…..but what came of their attendance of such events…..absolutely “nothing”. And that’s what will come of these attempts to convert ministers to believe in the holy (or...
Kook Jin's LLM video
What Kook Jin Moon is saying in the LLM sermon video is basically this…..I am the owner of your success. The members do all the work and he takes all the credit just like his father did. Every single thing he ever did was paid for by the blood sweat and tears of members. The Moons have never spent a single dime they didn’t take from members. So how does he feel like he’s so much...
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